Bluestone's new direction

[Director B]

Something has just occurred to me, we have never asked what you guys think of the new direction Bluestone is going in. Yes, a few of you guys have commented on a few posts, like the Crowd Funding post, but what do you really think of the situation involving Blue's stand on things. Is he going in the right direction, was it right to ask you to Crowd Fund for videos that wasn't made yet, did you contribute to the crowdfunding videos, would you prefer just death fetish videos rather than Superheroine ones, was production value important to you, will you miss the likes of Wondra, Supernova, Darkwing, etc, would you like to see more White Angel videos, would you like to see new original heroines, would you like things to remain as is, do you welcome change, as I keep stressing it's very important we hear your views because if you don't speak up we can't give you want you want. I suspect we'll get a few responses from the usual people but it would be nice to get comments from new people as well.

Anyway, I'm not expecting a lot of comments but I thought I'd just throw the question out there.

[xj900uk]

Nope it's a genuine question Director B. And you now my feelings on the Crowd Funding campaign - it was done with a good heart but fundamentally flawed. A lot of people ejust weren't prepared to pay out in advance for one of Blue's videos especially as there was no guarantee what elements they wanted would get included. Yeah I know I pledged a lot of my cash but that was just because I didn't want the darn things cancelled, I enjoy them too much.

I actually prefer the Superheroine & WA video series, with a consistent story-arc, even though they may well contain a lot of death-fetish and women-in-peril elements. I think a lot of people prefer those as well, as they then get to love the characters - I 4 1 will definitely miss the likes of Supernova, Wondra, Ultra and Darkwing if they disappear from our small screens for good. However it might be the time for a few new superheroine characters, perhaps even a couple of one-offs who are going to die at the end of their first and last mini-movie.
One of the biggest selling points (IMO) was the idea of multiple endings, one where the heroine was killed off, and the other where she (usually) survived, even if only just. That way you could both settle with those who wanted to see a fatality, and those who want to keep the story-arc going.

I've got quite a few ideas on how to take Bluestone & yours productions forward, keeping the same high values and also incorporating lots of the familiar stuff as well but packaging it in a slightly newer format.
It might also be a good idea to get the actresses and production crew involved as well, after all I think they've got a lot to bring to the format going forward into 2017.

[Ben R]

I think that there's a lot of competition in the superheroine genre right now. The thing is that you can go onto other sites and purchase superheroine/porn clips for a cheap price and it's almost like they have an unfair advantage. Their production costs and special effects are virtually non existent and the fact that they are willing to do porn as well (something that the actresses here are not willing to do) makes it very difficult to compete. There is only so much money to go around and when faced with a decision of a more expensive non porn superheroine clip and a cheaper superheroine/porn clip then the later option might be seen as a better option.

If you want to turn a profit you would have to can the special effects and use less people. You'd be able to have more of an output that way too, more videos in a shorter space of time.

One of the things I don't like is that a lot of times I feel like the videos are the same with strangulations, beat downs getting shot and so on. Do the clips always have to be about death and beating up women. Variation would be nice, like having a Supernova character defeated and sold into slavery or foot worship or just something different. Focus more on the story so to speak.

Melanie makes a beautiful Supernova and she is the only reason I am here, as a fan of hers as that character, so I don't want to loose her as Supernova. I think if not having her use superpowers and keeping things on the cheap would save it, (you wouldn't think that by doing this it wouldn't make it any more expensive than other videos) then do that and then occasionally do a bigger budget clip for people who like the special effects. Use the minimal cost ones to subsidize larger cost clips.

I hope this helps.

[Bluestone]

I hope this helps.

It all helps, guys. Keep that feedback and those suggestions coming. A final decision has not yet been made, because we are concentrating on getting those three videos shot in November, and we may be able to also film another White Angel episode. It will not be until after those are filmed that we will fully turn our minds to 2017. Here are some of my thoughts though:

1. Yes, there's only so much money in our current marketplace, which is why we may have to go after a bigger marketplace while still keeping this niche market;
2. I agree that we have to go heavier on story, otherwise the videos will become same-old-same-old, and will not appeal to a wider market;
3. Reference to 'profit' still indicates that the situation is less dire than it actually is. If you think that I'm just looking to increase my profit margins, you've missed the point of the exercise. I would be extremely happy to continue as is, if I was even breaking even.
4. As I mentioned on another thread, we plan to maintain the elements of beautiful women in sexy costumes and perilous adventures, but we will not be doing hard core porn... ever! Those looking for porn have lots of other producers who are churning out such material, but that's never been in the cards for us.

Hopefully, that will give you some more talking points.

Blue

[Foolish Mortal]

I love what the Blue Crew brings to the table. You do PERIL / fetish not porn. I like to see my heroines super. I like that the stories are as much a part of the video as the acting. You know you have done something right when you have a viewer rooting for the heroine to win. The right story delivered by right actor or actress (this team is the best!) and I find yourself hooked.
The crowdfunding was confusing to me. I understood supernova next need $5000 to produce. A couple of days later we were told that both crowdfunding campaigns had to be successful, that would have been $10K. I contributed to Supernova not to Darkwing. It didn't look like it was going to be close even with the change at the end to reimburse people.
To keep Blue going regardless of heroine or fetish, I would pay $50 a month for a year. One movie a month. If i get three or four supernova / prime films out of that I would be happy. I look forward to seeing what the future has in store for you.

[tiberius]

I'm certainly not here for porn. There are dozens of sites for that. I'm here because they have the best looking women on the planet, and they have the ability to put them through deadly peril with great acting, great special effects, and good storyline. My preference is either multi-bullet or multi-stab demise, onscreen, with minimal camera cuts, which is RARE (I only know of 3 other sites that can even touch this). Plus I like the fact that this site, which I realize is primarily asphyx, and put out the asphyx ending to the film, with the bonus of having different endings to cater to different preferences (which NOBODY ELSE does). Great idea.
I don't know how difficult it would be, but it may be desirable to produce the basic storyline lead-in, which usually involves some preliminary strangling, then produce multiple endings (not just 2), where the heroine is:
1) The victor (currently called the Peril Version)
2) The heroine is strangled to death (w/maybe a neck break as a finale)
3) The heroine is shot to death (multiply :).
4) The heroine is stabbed to death (multiply :).
5) The heroine is ?? to death...

This hopefully will only result in SOME additional filming, as you do now, but will be attractive to a broader audience, and you could still offer a combined package w/2 or more endings for a higher price. Obviously I'd by the shooting and stabbing ones.
Could be a logistical mess, or maybe not. I don't know.

My 2 cents.

T.

P.S.
I REALLY was looking forward to your octa-silencer shot Danica release, more than any other you've ever released. I'm still hoping she changes her mind (one can always hope).

[HeroDeath]

I *am* going to miss the characters and the costumes; but I also understand that Mr Blue needs to take a new direction if these clips are to continue. So, in the end, we need crowd funding and new characters.

I am not sure about the format of the crowd funding. Personally, I thought it was OK letting us vote for the elements we wanted to see; but I seem to be in the minority. However, I could not support two crowd funding projects simultaneously.

[Director B]

Thanks for the comments guys please continue to voice them if you haven't already.

[xj900uk]

We need alternative death scenarios - yes I understand that strangulations are very popular, and will probably always be in the future, but I love how you've stuck in the odd alternative demise like shooting, stabbing and even gassing.
For the future, let's have the odd drowning, head crushing and silencer shooting as well, please?
And your choloroform scenes are always extremely sexy and well done, so please find some way of keeping those in the future as well.

Oh yes, and also the costume of a superheroine is extremely important too. I am not sure you realise just quite how important.

[raiz72]

hi Blue .......i feel to tell you my opinion........i m who i admire and support your works ........i like almost all of your video, for quality for models and for theme always very well done....but sametimes i would like to see same woman "real" .....not always models (i love them) .......same older woman sameone not so perfect.......just real .......of course is my opinion ......
thanks always for your works.
raiz

[rayman]

I always contribute whatever shekels I can afford.

I must admit the crowd funding came out of the blue because as I understand it we all got heavily into the arrival of Melody Skye as Supernova Prime.
This resulted in a request to see more pf her and that I thought was to be the purpose of a campaign.
However things spirralled into 2 campaigns to save the Bluestone superheroine series.

I firmly believe that if a single campaign had been launched to fund the video that had been discussed it would of suceeded and I also feel the structure of the campaign was not as rewarding to contributors as others I have backed.

BUT! None of the above dulls my love of the Bluestone universe and I shall continue to buy and contribute as much as I can.

P.S. I really want to see more of Melody

[Nyghtfall]

I have zero interest in superheroine themes. What I would like to see is Director B take the reigns on Blue's Silk videos, using Director B's production assets (sets, props, equipment, actors, etc.).

[Director B]

I have zero interest in superheroine themes. What I would like to see is Director B take the reigns on Blue's Silk videos, using Director B's production assets (sets, props, equipment, actors, etc.).

Thanks for the vote of confidence Nyghtfall, sets, props, equipment, actors, etc, are paid for by Blue. Why would you think I'd make the Silk videos better?

[Nyghtfall]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Nyghtfall... Why would you think I'd make the Silk videos better?

Based on what few Silk videos I've seen over the years, compared with the handful of superheroine trailers you two have released, it's obvious to me that you have a much more keen cinematic eye for directing, and superior post-production skills. I think you would absolutely rock his Silk series.

[YTJGabriel04]

Well, for me personally........I've never really been one for the shootey/stabbey deaths......they're pretty common in the secular world........and nudity you can find anywhere if you want it......and no interest in the porn side either.

A good strangle scene is really hard to come by.......Bluestone Productions does an exceptional job with them....better than any other teams that i've seen out there in this 'industry', and getting better as they go.....
I am a neck fetish fan.....a good bear hug, backbreak, cradle carry, and/or garrotte strangle always peaks my interest (some multiview / longer limp scenes would be extra appealing, I love the look of a fully extended limp hot female neck)......
As for the superheroines.......they are great, but i certainly dont care what the actress wears as long as i can see what i wish to see.......

As for suggestions......I kind of agree with tiberius comments about the multiple option death scenes.....there are BP movies i didnt buy because they didnt provide enough for my fetish......i would love to see a really good frontal bearhug/backbreak/cradle carry of Melody and/or Melanie and/or Emma G and well, all of them......

How about releasing something like a HD Snapshot mini gallery with the downloaded movie for those who purchase it......I know there are some snaps released with the promotional forums, but some really high quality snaps would be awesome imo.....

On that note......I beleive the Bluestone world has been an amazing world to find and follow, i hope for plenty more and am keenly watching to see where this goes.......All the actresses are absolutely beautiful and very talented and my appreciation for their work is incredibly high.....Thanks heaps guys for i shall be watching this space with anticipation.....