Evangeline I saw this about Visa -

[Den-CnB]

I don't know how much truth there is to it but thought I would bring it to your attention:

Here are 2 threads that seem to indicate that sleep sites are next on VISA's hitlist.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=927195
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16308175

[Nyghtfall]

Uh... Den?... both of those links point to the same thread. Apparently, someone challenged the original poster with identifying the source of his info, and the OP replied, "I am the fucking source," and linked right back to the same thread.

The only difference between the two url's is that the domain name is spelled out in the first link.

[Nightposter]

I read this, then went off and read some of the other "topics" on that board...
-anyone who posts there doesn't have to back up what they say- and they say almost anything....

as I read it, they are calling "sleepy" those sites showing sex acts between one sleeping person and and another person some times called "sleep attack"

I do know that Visa has been targeting sites using the word "chloroform"
as a friend had their site denied by Visa, so he just gave up.

[Nyghtfall]

Well if all we have to do is watch the use of certains words, I can do that. I could say Carmen gets Micky Moused several times in the Mini and milk and honey flows from her mouth. Next week Kamryn is Pluto'ed in the Deputy Dogs! Let's see them target those words!

[Den-CnB]

I got this from a post from another forum and don't know if it has much value but the poster is very credible and the reason I posted it. Additionally, I found it odd this was a 'New' restriction since one of DT's sites has all Sleepy content with No molestation or sex and he has not been able get credit cards since about 2002 from the primary and secondary companies, including the ones in the Netherlands. PayPal also stopped service for the site as well then as being prohibited. However, this is not one of his primary sites since it's never been a money maker for him and he probably hasn't looked too hard for more obscure CC companies.

I can't find it on Google either but it is hard to find all the restrictions that Visa and MC have imposed on site content, consumer goods, and services. Even the TOS of credit card service providers are generally not all that clear on all prohibited content, consumer services and items. This may be intentional, since a few will take even our material since they need the money (especially now) until they get caught in 3 months to a year.

With the recession/depression I felt Visa and MC card would relax their enforcement of prohibited material. Maybe they have since I have not heard of the smaller or not so visible sites being shut down as they were before the money crunch. It could be credit card providers are saying this but enforcement may be little to almost none. Plus the US congress has placed hard restrictions on US only credit card fees that Visa and MC that will hit full force the first of next year and kill some of their expected income. I suspect this will change things to our benefit.

In my view, it is something for pay site owners that deal with this interest to be on the watch for and perhaps look for a back up credit card provider. Two credit card providers or more per pay site is always a good idea. If you loose one you have the other(s) and can look for a replacement for the lost one while keeping the site open with the same level of income.

Dennis

[bakerboy]

Soon they will ban the seven dwars and the prince for non consentually kissing Sleeping Beauty.

In my view? Likely true as this is just another "fetish" needed to be banned in order to dumb America even more !!

[JohnM]

I like the idea of using new words. Now we just have to train everyone:

Kill=Donk
Stabbing=Slart or Slartting
Necro=Floof

Yeah, this is fun. :-)

JohnM