XXXPorn and the Death Fetish!

[Bluestone]

Perhaps Bluestone can qualify support for Silk Videos.

And Bluestone I am unsure to what your JohnM comments accrue. JohnM is a triple XXX producer of popular acclaim.

4P

It was a joke, Penn!

You were infering that all those commenting on this thread were Bluestone Silk Videos exclusive customers. Obviously, JohnM commented on this thread, and he doesn't fall into this category... nor does Sandi... and Smudger has often referred to his purchases from other producers... etc., etc. Your inference has no basis in fact, and seems to be a spurious comment somehow related to your frustration with your sales. As Sandi said, if you'd make your comments clearer and not shrouded in vagueness, we'd better understand the points that you are trying to make.

Blue

[Pennpaul]

Thx, Bluestone. I was merely as obscure as the members. Perhaps they should clarify their buying direction.

Your joke regarding JohnM fell flat because John didn't really refer to purchases, per se. I too made no references to purchases in as much as I don't pay for my own videos.

4P

[Sandi]

4P,

thx, but no apology needed!.....lol. All I really was trying to find out (sorry if I was also too vague!) from your observations about sales was whether you found 'tamer' or 'more graphic' (or whatever terms one wishes to use) to be at least in general the largest sellers.

My 'gut feel', to use a phrase that may apply....lol....would be that the ones with more sexual content would outsell the tamer ones because maybe the overall market is larger than those with 'our' fantasies....but I have no real clue as to the answer.

Sandi

[Egeek]

Vague references do not aid discussions, Pennpaul....lol....and only raise more questions in a Reader's mind as to 'what does he mean?' or 'to which Poster(s) is he referring?'

If none of your comments were directed to my post at either site, fine...lol. If they are directed at my remarks in any way, please just be specific about where we might disagree. At DS, it was 'said' that my post was 'heckled', so naturally I am curious as to what you might have posted that led someone to that conclusion.

Not looking for an argument here at all, just asking to directly specify the comments and opinions with which you agree, and clearly and respectfully stating where you disagree. Otherwise, a response of any relevance cannot be made; of course, you may not desire a response, either but one cannot know from the vague nature of your comments.

Are you saying 'more brutal' videos do not outsell more 'tame' ones? Or the opposite? I just don't know what you meant...lol.

Nor am I in any 'exclusive' loyalty to just one Producer, btw, and happen to own material from many Producers who advertise at 'our' sites.

Mainly, to clarify, both of my posts were only centered on the fact of heavily decreased female activity at both sites and one thing that most definitely has been at least a partial cause for that.

I note that at FN, it is now a one-woman show, as Kelli has chosen to stay away herself for a month or more; some of the reasons for that, which the people at FN seem to not understand or certainly not really care about, is because of the explicit sexual imagery and dripping cum shots and male penis images and as many pictures of men being shot as women that are permitted there.

There are 2 women who participate in the sexually graphic threads; the rest basically do not post to such supposedly 'interactive' stories because that is not what most of us wish to share in that manner.

So other than the majority female POV, I have nothing to say about brutality videos; maybe I just assumed men could or would understand that many of the 'more tame' fantasy depictions are far, far different than direct rape and 'using the woman' in all orifices videos are. Rape and 'using the woman's body for nothing but the male satisfaction' is far more offensive to most of us because it represents the real violence every woman, in some way, fears or is aware can happen at any time at any day of her life. Said another way, they are simply too real for most women to enjoy, too directly obvious in terms of violence from brutal men who only care about their own satisfaction.

Peace out, unless you have something specific to address to what I've said.

Sandi

when it comes tot he term rape in my stories. I wont deny that I dont mind seeing it. But Im also trying to move away from it as well. or use it in such a way that its very fantasy. Like a demented elf enjoying a dead womans feet. shooting his green goo on them. it has the element of rape of her feet. necro foot job more of but is there such a thing as a evil elf? or one that has green goo like that? not a sex killer made up in the mind. plus like I said Im more of a horror like 80s slasher type of guy or a tales from the crypt type of guy. imaginative with fetish elements seen. least for us. no rape stuff. just maybe a death stare or a sexy woman with hose on. stuff like that. Aside from my hit woman character I created. My killer characters or my fan fic story killers are for the most part not sex killers. no rape. except for maybe one or two. a hit woman enjoying another womens feet in hose to show appreciation to the beauty. I can go on all day about it and go detail. you do bring up interesting points.

[Drizzt]

I don't mind porn in theory, but the issue is that just like with regular porn, people often substitute penetration for imagination.

One of my favorite erotic stories is "Bikini Brothel", which spoofs the whole 80's-90's sex comedy genre. As its intro points out, all too often those movies were sexier and more fun than actual porn from the same period. When you can fall back to "insert A into slot B", you often invest less in acting, script, camera work, gimmicks, whatever.

My favorite scenes are from mainstream movies, but my favorite customs often don't feature hardcore sex. One of my favorite clips in particular is Double Tapped, with Petra, who really manages to act there. A different movie with a similar scenario but a hardcore component would have made the shooting perfunctory in order to hurry up and get to the necro sex.

[xj900uk]

Agree totally, Drizzit, sometimes our imagination can be our most powerful sex organ, if you see what I mean.
For me, I have found that one of the prequisites for it to be erotic is that it has to be realistic and unbelievable. Perhaps that is why the necro sex element just doesn't seem to work for me - it is too unbelievable

[Egeek]

Agree totally, Drizzit, sometimes our imagination can be our most powerful sex organ, if you see what I mean.
For me, I have found that one of the prequisites for it to be erotic is that it has to be realistic and unbelievable. Perhaps that is why the necro sex element just doesn't seem to work for me - it is too unbelievable

Ya I know. I think of my imagination as a fetish. which goes into liking 80s slasher flicks. when it comes to rape stuff. Its too realistic to me. unless its a demented christmas elf doing the necro footjob. which happened in one of my stories. its pretty much fantasy with a little of realistic element. that being the foot job. The necro sex I may look at in some stuff but not needed either. the unbelievable the better in fantasies. especially when you use the first person view in stories. more fun.