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Post by indiefilmfan »

OK, I'll keep this brief, but just long enough to still be considered shameless...

When I first stumbled into this community by chance about 2 years ago, I began to write some reviews on these wonderful new (to me) vids I bought. For some reason, there just didn't seem to be many people writing them at the time, and as I began to pen a few out, I got some pretty kind messages from some people, who also encouraged me to establish working relationships with some of the producers to do reviews / promotions for them.

While flattering, this was not something I gave real consideration to, because for one, I was doing the reviews mainly because I am a writer, and enjoy it, and two, I simply wasn't interested in investing that much time into it, even for financial compensation.

Well, it was brought up again to me recently, and after some consideration, I have decided to give it a go, not for any true financial compensation, but still mostly because I do enjoy doing it, and I'd also like to help out the producers here that I give zero patronage to in any way I can.

In the last 2 years I have learned a lot about this "community" by scouring the forums and communicating directly with some of the producers. I have seen that many talented producers have come and gone for a variety of reasons, mostly due to simply not being able to earn a living at it because of piracy, etc.

As I'm very picky about what I like, and I'm not personally into 90% of the fetish material that is celebrated here, my contributions to the various producers' coffers has in a few cases been considerable, but in most other cases nothing at all, because their content simply doesn't interest me.

Well, I guess in the old "needs of the many" sense, my personal thread has probably netted some sales for those producers whose work I fancy enough to buy and write about, yet done nothing at all to help promote the sales of most of the rest of you. That bums me out a little. :frown:

I know for some producers, they are one-person operations, in which they write, fund, film, edit, etc. everything because they simply can't afford other assistants to help them. And due to that, they are simply too busy to spend much time also writing up lengthy promotions and posting screencaps on one forum, let alone several.

Perhaps as a result of this, the descriptions I've seen written in the third party websites that feature your vids for sale are most often very short and terrible. And so are the pathetic preview pics. :disapprove:

Also, F.F. is primarily an english language board, and there are a good number of producers here who do pretty darn well with english not being their first language. But that being said, from an American writer and grammar nazi's point of view, some of the posts advertising a new video for sale can be tough to understand.

So I am extending the offer to all the producers here. If you would like me to do a write-up on a specific title, just let me know via a p.m. or you can email me direct, and I'll see if I can't get you a few extra sales. Perhaps we can even breathe some new life into some of your older inventory that might have had it's only promotional post a decade ago.

Most of you know what I like personally, and that has always been reflected in the reviews I was posting. But feel free to request a review on whatever genre you like, and I'll expand my horizons to write about your strangulations, drownings, stabbings, hangings, or whatever.

This decision became clear to me tonight in light of a few things. First, I was looking at a response to my thread from a gentleman whose profile said - "Most videos are expensive (to me) and the reviews, etc, help me to choose wisely for a purchase. 'Reviews' by the producer are often biased."

Then, I was scouring the Amazon-Warriors site for the zillionth time, searching for some yet undiscovered treasure that somehow eluded me all the other times I scoured his site, LOL. Alas, it was not to be. I actually wanted to send Olaf a few more deutsche marks, but couldn't find anything else I felt I needed to add to my Amazon library.

So I have already bought, for the most part, everything that tickled my own fancy around here. But clearly, there are people that frequent this board (400ish at any given time) who don't like to talk, but they do scour the board for information that helps them to decide what to spend their money on. This was discussed recently in another thread.

So producers, in essence, help me help your customers help YOU... LOL! ;-)

Or, if you rather, someone else said it better a while back:


“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

― Emma Lazarus



Cheers! - indie
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Hi there Indie and good morning o you!

Lovely offer to write up a few movies. May I make a suggestion and ask you to look at Mayra's 'Sexy Latin Amazons' production team from Peru? It's just they are really feeling the pinch financially at the moment and myself and everyone else where would hate to see them go under. So, if you could view and then properly review a few of their films, to help generate some extra interest and hopefully some sales as well in their works, I think that everyone would really appreciate it.
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My offer is open to everyone, XJ, so if you already know Mayra, by all means have her drop me a line. I have only ever purchased one vid from them, as most of what I have seen there is not for my personal tastes.

But that is the whole point of this thread - I'm willing to do reviews now of things I had no intent of doing before in the interest of trying to boost the sales of struggling studios like you mentioned. And I think we all know they're not the only ones struggling.

Anything someone wants to send me to review has cost them nothing, since it likely won't be anything I would've ever purchased, or I would've already done it. So if my post reaches one potential viewer who then purchases the vid from them, it was worth it for the producer. Easy cheese. :D
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I'm getting some positive interaction from some of the producers so far, so I'll begin posting some more reviews soon.

On a funny side note, a friend said to remember I'm only one person and can only review these things so fast, so he hoped I didn't bite off more than I could chew.

I said "do you really think there will be that much of a response?"

He said "you never know. Be careful what you ask for... Some of these guys have been making vids a loooong time. What are you going to do if you get up tomorrow and your email is full of dozens of requests. And again the next day, and the next..."

I said "I don't think it'll be all that dramatic."

Then he laughed and walked over and looked out the window and said "hey, a semi-truck just pulled up out front... it has personalized license plates that says 'The Strangler.' "

"I think they're Canadian....." :eek: :eek: :eek: :shake: :shake: :shake:



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If I understand correctly, you're offering to buy titles you wouldn't otherwise be interested in, just to review them in hopes of helping drive sales?
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No, sir. I'm afraid my coffers don't run that deep, lol. I'm offering to review whatever titles producers want to send me for free. And while at first listen that may sound to some as if I'm trying to score a bunch of free stuff, that's not quite the case. And I would hope members around here would know me better than that by now.

Anyone who's read my thread for the last couple of years knows what a small percentage of fetish stuff I like. So, any producer wanting to send me something outside of that small area of interest to advertise for them isn't losing a dime from me, since the vast majority of content is simply not something that interests me enough to spend my own money on. So if they send me a vid that I review and it results in one person deciding to buy it, they've already profited. I'm just offering up my time to give them a bit of better advertising is all.

I've spent a pretty good amount over the last few years, but it's only been with a couple producers for the most part. I'm just trying to help out the ones I haven't, or likely ever would buy anything from in the only other way I can think of. Cheers! - indie
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No producer in their right mind would ever take me up on what you're offering to do. I'm too detail-oriented.

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Well, these will be promotional reviews meant to give a more full description of the exact fetish elements of the video, with good screencaps, so as to help the reader make a better decision on if that vid is for them or not. They are not going to so much reflect my personal opinions, because there would be little to offer there, since most of those topics don't interest me on a personal level.

A lot of people don't have a big monthly budget to spend on these kind of vids to indulge their particular itch. Perhaps only $15, which buys them one vid. There are thousands to choose from, and MANY of the synopses and the screencaps featured on the third party sites where they often purchase these vids are utter garbage.

That makes it a terrible risk of wasting money on something they watch once, dislike, and have to wait another month before they can take a chance on another one. I know, because I"ve done it. It sucks, even if you have a little more money than that to spend. So if I can help people make a better educated decision on which vid to buy, that's a win for the customer AND the producer. :clap:

There are already several producers wanting to give it a go, so it's looking positive so far. Time will tell... :yes:
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Ah. So, you're basically offering to re-do their ad copies.
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Correct..... only my new version will be much more lame with infinitely less effort put into the details of it. A complete sham, basically... :lol:
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I think it is a great idea. What would it take to get you to review my reviews? 😁 I do wonder if you would find a lot of it enjoyable writing. Since it would presumably be advertising and not critical writing, it would seem to deprive you of some of the stuff that works best in your free lance reviews. The opportunities to counter what you like about a film against what you find lacking may not be the type of lead in a producer finds particularly marketable, so I assume you would have to censor some criticism. Would that be something you would want to do on an ongoing basis? Anyway, if I were a producer with a writer of your talents at my disposal, I would at least inquire. Giving out free movies to someone who claims to not have a death fetish in some circumstances may be received with skepticism. But you have made the point more than enough to dispel the danger.
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My personal reviews of the vids I bought for myself over the last few years are completely biased, of course, as they are of titles that I found enough to my personal liking to spend my money on.

What I'm offering to do for producers are reviews purely on the content from a neutral point of view. I have no death fetish at all. I would be just as happy with any vid I own if the girls all lived at the end, whether full of a hundred holes or not, lol. The actual death does nothing for me. Neither does most of the rest of the stuff discussed here.

But that doesn't mean I won't help market a vid from a strictly business point of view, and give an honest appraisal of it's contents. That's like the difference of me doing a review of my personal opinion of a certain vid you commissioned vs. an unbiased review strictly citing it's contents to help the producer better convey their wares to the potential consumer. Two totally different things.

I wouldn't be able to do "personal opinion" reviews on 99% of the content featured here, as it holds zero personal interest for me, so I'm not qualified to tell anyone here what is a "perfect" strangulation, etc. But what I can do is tell them exactly what the vid contains, and post good screencaps of the fetish elements featured.

I wish I could get a refund for every vid I've bought that I took a chance on due to shitty pics and a one-sentence description, only to watch it once and never watch it again because it wasn't what I thought it was.

Look at John Marshall's typical ad. There is zero chance you will make a mistake and not know what you're getting into there. Several well-written, descriptive paragraphs and tons of RELEVANT pics. They should all look like that, but it takes time, effort (or money to pay an assistant to do it), and in some cases, better english. If all the producers had the time and ability to do it, they would. But they don't. So if they like, they can send them to me, and I'll do my best to help.
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