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Producers and fashion

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:32 am
by walhalla
I am mostly a lurker but have been around for years.

Without being a fashion expert, it has not evaded me that dark opaque tights worn with skirts and boots are very much back in style. Women in real life follow this trend because the combination makes their legs look sexy.

Yet, all producers seem to ignore this fashion trend to a point and prefer to provide nudity, nudity and nudity without end, alternatively skimpy underwear over and over.

It seems that this reflects the taste of the majority of clip buying customers. This is the law of supply and demand, nothing wrong with that.


Here is my request:

Could producers please at least from time to time dress their models in dark opaque tights, boots and skirts? And ideally leave them on long enough to offer some good PM upskirt views?

And before someone says "order your own customs if you want to see this", you should know that I already did exacty that. If you see a clip featuring victims wearing dark tights,it is likely that this is the Nicheclip version of one of my customs, but my means are not endless....


Anyone seconds this?

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:06 am
by JohnM
Could you forward me a pic of what you mean and I will try to add it to wardrobe. I think I know what you mean--it was popular in the mid 80's or so--"Flashdance" era. It is not a trend in the Pacific NW again, yet.....but we usually are a couple years behind whatever they are doing in CA.

Everything I do is basically customs and the customer does dictate and often purchases and ships the clothing, so I am at thier mercy. As soon as customers decide to buy at old levels again, I will be able to self produce and take requests again. Here's hoping.

JohnM

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:39 pm
by Pennpaul
Wallhalla, Debbie D does this quite frequently. Oft times for customs as well as her own stories.

4P

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:32 pm
by walhalla
JohmM:
I can send you an e-mail if but the contact feature on your PKF website does not allow attachments. Which address should I use?
But really just go to any major fashion retailers webcatalogue and you find tons of models in this outfit. I'm talking 2010 Fall/Winter not the 80's.
Not sure about the copyright issue so I prefer not to post any of those images here.
Pennpaul:
Yes I purchased some of the clips on your Nicheclip page long ago, even though she wore the more transparent pantyhose as far as I can see and anyway I haven't seen even those on her on your recent work. Any titles you could recommend with specific PM footage where she wears opaque tights and which I missed?

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:14 pm
by tommygun
While you're at it, send a copy to me also so we can look at it for RueMorgue productions.

I'll send you the address for the attachment...

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:17 am
by Algenon5
Why not just post the photo here?
Or am I missing something?

Al

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:29 pm
by walhalla
@Algenon5

These pics would be from a webcatalgue of any US fashion retailer and therefore copyrighted.
While I am sure those companies pursue all copyright violations, I am much less sure this would not bring unwelcome attention to this board (Mr. Bluestone?)

Therefore I sent some randomly taken sample pictures to both producers above to illustrate my point.

You can though as one example try Macy's website and find tons of example of models wearing opaque tights with dresses and boots (or heels)

I was merely making the point that these are in fashion right now but not very often shown on clips sold by the fetish producers. It would be a welcome alternative to full nudity from start to end of a clip for some customers (hope I am not the only one....) . If you prefer nudity, these tights can still be removed during the clip so that should basically cater to lots of us....

And before anyone says they hate pantyhose or tights like last time I brought this topic up: please respect other people's taste which is different than yours.

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:59 pm
by Algenon5
Thanks for the explanation, Walhalla.
I completely agree with you. All-nudity all the time is boring.

Al

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:05 am
by walhalla
Thanks to the few producers who took the time to comment my question. I carry the hope that maybe the comments will translate into their clips one of these days.
I must say that I am a little disappointed about the lack of response from the majority of producers.
Well, there was of course no obligation for any producer to answer. On the other hand, I will remember those producers who answered and those who did not when I will purchase clips or even order a custom again.

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:14 am
by Bluestone
Hi Walhalla,

Not sure I understand this fashion craze. Perhaps, it hasn't reached the Canadian northland yet. What I have seen a lot of are black leggings, but not opague tights. Is the photo below from "Investment In Murder", which was NOT a custom, anything like what you were looking for? I'm sure that the lack of photos demonstrating what you meant had something to do with the lack of response from many of the producers. There might be other factors too, but if customers want to see this fashion craze, at least the producers should know what they are looking for. I know you didn't want to post copyrighted photos here, but you could post links to these catalogues. That's not copyright infringement.

As for other factors, I personally don't like opaque tights. As far as I am concerned, if women have nice legs, I want to see them. If they are covered in bruises and/or tattoos, I can understand how opaque tights can hide the imperfections and highlight the sexy shape of the female legs. Just one producer's opinion, since you asked. :D

Blue

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:35 am
by walhalla
Hello Bluestone

yes I bought "Investment in Murder" back when it came out and I loved the way the model was dressed. Personally I would have loved some more body handling after demise but I understand that your clips do not go into this direction.

I also understand that you personally hate the fashion because you prefer bare legs. I respect your opinion and I know now why you do not use this fashion item more in your productions. Thanks for responding.

However, you say that you don't understand the "fashion craze" (your words). Well there is nothing to understand: it is a fetish, or better: a sub fetish. There is no explanation why someone has such preferences. It is just the way they are wired.

Concerning your comment about the pictures, it seems that I was over cautious but since posting links is OK, here are some:
http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/i ... 6spc%3D186
http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/i ... ryID=51482
http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/i ... ryID=51482
http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/i ... &LinkType=

So, maybe this will provide some more elements for a positive dialogue about the topic.

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:57 am
by Bluestone
Thanks for the pics, Walhalla.

I think you misunderstood me when I wrote that I didn't understand this fashion craze. I didn't mean that I didn't understand why people like it, I just wasn't sure what this fashion looked like. The pics help. I respect all fetishes. To each his own. I was just trying to understand how to dress my actresses to achieve this look. I assume that boots are part of the look.

She didn't wear boots, but Kerie wears similar dark tights in an upcoming Bluestone production entitled "Hired Guns". At the bottom of this post is a sneak peak after she's been gunned down by Petra. Are these opaque enough. They seem similar to some of those in the following images:
http://www.google.ca/images?q=opaque+ti ... CDUQsAQwAA

There appear to be sheer opaque tights listed there, so I assume that they don't have to be 100% opaque?

Blue

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:17 am
by walhalla
OK Bluestone. Point taken.

To answer your question: boots are nice to have, but not essential.

Thanks for the preview pic of your upcoming production. "Hired Guns" I love the tights , theey're opaque enough.

Will there be some upskirt views and PM body manipulations like flipping around or dragging?

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:39 am
by Bluestone
Hi Walhalla,

I think the only upskirt-type shots would be similar to the pic above, and no body manipulation afterwards, since it's a shootout between three women who all die from their wounds in the end.

Blue

Re: Producers and fashion

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:39 am
by Brandy
You've got some really sexy girls Bluestone. :approve: