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I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:59 am
by Den-CnB
Yesterday and today I am getting huge hits in from this forum. I've never been there before and not sure what to make of the photos (caution very graphic):
Link Deleted By FF Administration!
Dennis
Note from FF Administration: With the permission of Dennis (see below), I have removed the above link now that people have had the opportunity of seeing the dark side, and the gross material that is out there on such boards. I believe everyone who has posted on this thread is disgusted by these images and by the possibility that they may be real. We do not want this board associated at all with such sites, even with a hyper-link to such a site. Further discussions on this thread are, however, permitted.
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:47 am
by Den-CnB
It is too extreme for me and makes me uncomfortable that was not done by some sane producer in our community ( at least not to my knowledge).
I show extreme videos on site to people 18 years or over that are very graphic but they are from known production companies and have been checked out by people in authority. All footage is Not Real.
If I was told these photos on this thread on this forum are real I would believe it. If you venture to the other threads most photos are definitely real - My intent is to just link this one thread.
Blue, if you want to delete this is thread it is okay with me.
Dennis
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:26 am
by Bluestone
Personally, real death sickens me, like I'm sure it sickens everyone here, and that is why it is a banned subject on this forum. Having said that, the aspect of real death that is banned is the promotion of real death, not comments against it. So, I will leave this thread up so that others may comment.
I.M.H.O. it is sites such as Dennis linked to above that draw the anger of legislators and the disgust of the public, and rightly so. If there is nothing to indicate that these are not real snuff images, then this site should be taken down by the powers that be. The problem is that the authorities, like those in the U.K., too often throw their net much too wide, and don't differentiate between an extreme and perhaps real snuff site and poor old Bluestone Silk Videos and the other sites represented here, where death is not graphic, but fantasized, and where it's clear to anyone viewing this material that it is staged and that the regular actresses reappear in one video after the next no worse for the wear and tear of bullets, knifings, strangulation and the like. I just hope that extreme sites such as the one above disappear from the net or are taken down, before they draw the attention and the fury of the powers that be.
My opinion only, of course.
Blue
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:02 am
by Dalila di Capri
Hello Everyone,
There seems to be an entirely independent community of RL gore fetish fans out there who enjoy seeing crime scenes, accident victims, burned and festering bodies etc.
Some of them perhaps would also enjoy our material, but when an obviously staged erotic horror fantasy film is posted at these kinds of sites many of the members say "fake", as though staged deaths are not desirable when compared to RL trauma.
Since I produce the fake stuff and have survived the real thing I can say that not even the most violent or graphic producers do can compare to the blood quanties and terror experienced by a real life assault with a knife. I cannot speak for a bullet wound but I would direct you to the very real and horrifying murder of the Iranian coed that was spread accross the internet.
With very few exception our community is one that highlights the fantasy element of the genre. The more escape offered the better.
Really! A woman gets shot in the belly and craves a cigarette? Come now. IN RL that same woman would be screaming for a paramedic and pleading for her life.
Those of us who enjoy more "realistic" special effects are simply doing it to enhance the fantasy of the scene. In my case the carefully edited footage in our films is surreal and glamorous.
Dalila the character lives in a world wherein a petite, fined boned woman can become an ass kicking Amazon Assassin.
Dalila the woman has been on the sharp end of a real knife once before. That is one time too many.
BTW Blue, modesty forbids me from posting on the producer of the week thread, but I did notice it.
Thank you very much for that.
I plan to post when all of the other producers are given their due.
Baci 
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:06 am
by JohnM
I saw this guys work a couple years ago. He has a series of a couple videos that have been circulating.
The recent hits could be because of that recent Horrorcore murder that hit CNN the other day. It could be that media is looking for everything extreme.
I never found this stuff to be extreme....it just looks too artsy. I see creative sets and lots of blood. Even through it is gross, real death is so much more real that even the most blood spattered image does not bug me if it I know it is fake.
There is a haunted house this year opening up in the Portland area. It is for adults only....admission is $55 a person. It is even more graphic then this, with full nudity.
http://www.darkestdreamsentertainment.c ... age10.html
I am going. :-)
JohnM
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:20 am
by EvilBilly
This stuff was way too gory for me; heck, even the KHP multiple belly-stab vids are too much for me. If I were to join that other forum I would have to call myself WussyBilly.
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:03 pm
by Den-CnB
JohnM wrote:I saw this guys work a couple years ago. He has a series of a couple videos that have been circulating.
The recent hits could be because of that recent Horrorcore murder that hit CNN the other day. It could be that media is looking for everything extreme.
I never found this stuff to be extreme....it just looks too artsy. I see creative sets and lots of blood. Even through it is gross, real death is so much more real that even the most blood spattered image does not bug me if it I know it is fake.
JohnM
JohnM,
The hits to my site are directly from the forum - stats below. The links to my site are in the thread and I don't like them referring to my site while associating it with this material. (Btw, to Forum Admin and Posters: links in your posts are reported as below to the sites they are linked to. Plus they get personal info as IPs, type of computer, and so on - I just use it to see how my advertising projects are working but other sites can use it anyway they want)
Referrals to cuddlynecrobabes.com for 10/6/2009 (this goes to all referrals so there are several hundred urls- this is just the first 3 and I left out the number and %):
1. (no referral)
2.
http://www.darksites.net/lug/cat/extra/new/
3. forum.uncoverreality.com/rest-pieces/135129-asesino-necrofilico-set-de-fotos.html
Here is one link to my site in the thread, posted by 'Keithy', then repeated in the thread:
"got agree with spunky janine ..fake as fuck ..
http://www.cuddlynecrobabes.com/promo2/home03d.html ....these are real."
As far as gore I can take anything as long as I know it is fake like I show on my site. I am usually more interested how they do the special effects. Since I worked murder cases, some really grusome, I can take some real ones in the first person with little problem but some do trouble me -like the one on this forum if it is real- in how they were murdered and inspire me to work harder to get the perp.
Dennis
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:11 pm
by Nightposter
I went over and looked at the site, just scrolling down the topics in the forum and looking on the mini previews, I wouldn't want to go any further, from my public safety experience, most of those pics are real ( and the ones that looked staged had responses of "Fake Fake Fake!") and the want them that way. I don't think any member of our community ( I hope) does not find any pleasure in those pics..
Members point out in posts that we don't like our death and destruction "too" realistic, after all we want to see our beauties again and again in demise.
On thread showed a supposed rape murder victim, and one pic was a pic of her "before", there rest were crime scene shots. She crime scene shots do not look anything like the pic sets and vids we view made by our producers. Real death is brutal, ugly, sickeningly nasty, and definitely Not sexy.
Now the real question is weather or not we want to accept or deny the association with the "real" part of death fetish as show in that forum. My opinion is to denounce the association for the fetish with real death sites.
John,
I use site meter to watch my hits in my blog and at DA to gauge how my art is being accepted. If you buy into the service, you can get even more detail on who is watching your sites - you still can not see who by name, just the ISP's name but a lot of info that "I" would never need is available
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:55 pm
by JohnM
Sorry, den, I thought it was the site that those pics were from, which of course--is fake. I did not realize this was a forum....now that I see, I see what you mean.
I actually tried to advertise a few times on necrofiles.com, but found that all those folks wanted was real stuff. Which goes to show, not much cross-over to our fetish from there.
JohnM
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:06 pm
by Bluestone
JohnM wrote: Which goes to show, not much cross-over to our fetish from there.
Thank goodness! 
Blue
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:59 pm
by Mkkb
Bluestone wrote:JohnM wrote: Which goes to show, not much cross-over to our fetish from there.
Thank goodness!
Blue
Indeed....
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:53 pm
by kelli
just for shits and giggles, i kind of perused the message board there. all i can say is thank goodness for you guys who only like fantasy female death. some of the people there are creepy and downright scary! 
i suddenly feel much safer here 
Re: I am getting huge hits in from this forum
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:13 pm
by mresoteric
Real life violence against women(or anyone)is ugly and sad. I don't see anything erotic or sexy about it.