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It's a studio I see here and there, almost always enjoy their content especially their F/F. The Girls are always realistically beautiful and I believe that's where Coco and belle started out? Anyway I've been trying to find a website or something where I could get in touch and see if they do customs. From looking on Nicheclips it seems like they reupload a lot of older videos and don't seem to post new, new ones.

Chris retired from the movie making business in around 2017 or early 18 I think, Dark Lime, that's why no new movies have been posted for some time. You are right though in that Coco & Belle worked a lot with him and established their careers with his production company. I am trying to remember now who he sold the rights to all his works and intellectual property... May have been John

Quite the story behind the answer to your question. Here's the short version:

Chris used to be a bartender(?) for a strip club. JohnM rented out the club for one of, if not the first videos he shot, shortly after splitting from his business partner, Hank, of RueMorgue. John wound up recruiting Chris into his newly formed PKF Studios and Chris became a regular villain in a sizeable chunk of PKF's videos.

Fast forward a few years, John and Chris parted ways, and Chris formed Chris' Corner. A year or two later, he created Taboo Cinema.

Sometime after that, Chris' girlfriend, Irma, who was his principle photographer for Chris' Corner and Taboo Cinema, formed 121 Fantasies. 121 Fantasies had a falling out with one of their custom clients and closed shop after producing only a handful of videos. Soon after that - about 6 years ago now - Chris sold Chris' Corner and Taboo Cinema to Big John of Annabelle's Fantasy, and left the industry. Big John's been rotating content for both studios ever since.

All of this happened over the course of about 15(?) years, starting in the early-to-mid-2000s.

Hmmm that's very interesting, thank you for your time. Let's just say I've been around the block for while in this community/industry and I just think it's very interesting and cool with how it's all interconnected definitely a small world. In terms of customs did Chris ever do them? What was his pricing like? Did anyone end up filling the hole that he left? Seems like John and his PKF studio kinda just swallowed everything up

Chris was very troubled at the end. He was trying to make enough money to live by doing these clips. It doesn't work that way any more. The producers generally lose money, without any consideration of the hours and hours that go into making clips. It's more of a hobby than a business. Unless you have a much lower cost structure, which is a great advantage of the Russian producers.

When he was producing, Chris charged about the normal amount for customs, $500 or so for 15 minutes and one or two female victims. But his financial troubles were such that he collected for customs then took months to produce them, if he did them at all. Anyway, for health reasons, he retired from producing.

As for other producers and customs, it's depressing that you think the only one left is John Marshall at PKF!

tommygun wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:08 pm Chris was very troubled at the end. He was trying to make enough money to live by doing these clips. It doesn't work that way any more. The producers generally lose money, without any consideration of the hours and hours that go into making clips. It's more of a hobby than a business. Unless you have a much lower cost structure, which is a great advantage of the Russian producers.


As for other producers and customs, it's depressing that you think the only one left is John Marshall at PKF!

That's a big oof, especially since PKF charges out the ass for their customs (understandably so) I wish to the best to Chris we all want to live life doing what we love, but sadly it doesn't always work like that. At least he tried

DarkLime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:59 pm Did anyone end up filling the hole that he left? Seems like John and his PKF studio kinda just swallowed everything up

If, by "swalled everything up", you mean, "became the market leader", PKF has always been one of the top-selling studios in the community, but they are by no means the only game in town.

As for filling whatever hole Chris left, studios come and go on a regular basis. That's why it's so important for folks to help support the ones they like. I have long felt that there is a gaping hole in the market for exclusive home invasion themes featuring innocent, successful career women as victims. Chris occasionally catered to that and I still watch the videos I bought. To that point, for my tastes, he set the bar with his Chris' Corner production of "Dead Professionals" starring Ryanne, Bell Fatale, and Lexi.

My wife green-lit my becoming a producer as a Christmas present two years ago. I immediately started scouting local modeling agencies, shooting locations, shopping for film equipment, etc.. I also started learning everything I need to becme a photographer and filmmaker. You can imagine my shock upon learning just how expensive the production side of things really is. Consequently, I embraced my 3D art with a renewed passion and built a new workstation a couple months ago. Meanwhile, I remain hopeful I'll be able to work with real women someday.

Bottom line, if you find a studio who's work you like, support them. Buy what piques your interest and finance a custom if you have a specific fantasy in mind.

Nyghtfall3D wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:37 pm

DarkLime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:59 pm Did anyone end up filling the hole that he left? Seems like John and his PKF studio kinda just swallowed everything up

As for filling whatever hole Chris left, studios come and go on a regular basis. That's why it's so important for folks to help support the ones they like. I have long felt that there is a gaping hole in the market for exclusive home invasion themes featuring innocent, successful career women as victims. Chris occasionally catered to that and I still watch the videos I bought. To that point, for my tastes, he set the bar with his Chris' Corner production of "Dead Professionals" starring Ryanne, Bell Fatale, and Lexi.

My wife green-lit my becoming a producer as a Christmas present two years ago. I immediately started scouting local modeling agencies, shooting locations, shopping for film equipment, etc.. I also started learning everything I need to becme a photographer and filmmaker. You can imagine my shock upon learning just how expensive the production side of things really is. Consequently, I embraced my 3D art with a renewed passion and built a new workstation a couple months ago. Meanwhile, I remain hopeful I'll be able to work with real women someday.

Bottom line, if you find a studio who's work you like, support them. Buy what piques your interest and finance a custom if you have a specific fantasy in mind.

Too Right mate, there's a few studios I support whenever I can and I'm constantly trying to branch out and find new ones, I plan on making a post about a good handful of studios and my thoughts on them tomorrow. I'm hoping I get some opinions. Also have you produced any videos yet? I'd love to see it. I'm big fan of women in power being victimized especially by other women, and if they're wearing something business like (skirt,pumps,heels)

Chris was 100% passionate about death fantasy. I commissioned a custom with 121 Fantasies, and it remains one of my all-time favorites. Chris had a knack for feeling you out and giving exactly what you wanted, and he and Irma truly brought death fantasy to the art it should be - solid exploitation and amazing powerful imagery.

I've never commissioned a custom with PKF, but I salute John M for what he delivers. If you're into his style of death fantasy (hardcore rape and necro rape), you'll love his material. It's not my cup of tea, but I admire his take on death fantasy, even if I cannot afford it.

There are plenty of producers out there who might satisfy your passions. Black Nylons Films is totally affordable and they do great work. I've also commissioned several customs with Seductive Studios, also very affordable. Crime House does amazing work, and extremely professional material. They will try almost anything so long as it stays in an R-rated range. There are good producers out there for any budget. Just buy some of their videos and find what suits you best. :)

DarkLime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:47 pm Also have you produced any videos yet? I'd love to see it.

Sadly, that remains a pipe dream. Meanwhile, I've financed a few customs:

"In Thirty" by PKF
"Silencing Star" by Truly Rough Productions
"Night Shower" by PKF
"Red Ledger" by Crime House

And scripted a few studio vids:

"Deadliest Catch" by Psycho-Thrillers
"The Newlywed Killer" by Bluestone (I wrote and co-edited this one)
"Laundry Room Attack" by PKF
"Daylight Intruder" by Chris' Corner

I plan on financing more once I pay off my PC.

DarkLime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:47 pm I'm big fan of women in power being victimized especially by other women, and if they're wearing something business like (skirt,pumps,heels)

I'm not into f/f scenes. My antagonists are always men, dressed in back and wearing a mask when the wardrobe allows. I like anonymous, Michael Myers-type killers who never have carnal knowledge of their prey before killing them.

I highly recommend Nyghtfall's "Night Shower." It's a superb video - one of my favorites!

Sorry, but I seem to be out of touch. Does Bluestone still do North American made customs? His work is generally the best in the world, unbelievably good in comparison with so many others! But I searched all of his various internet pages and saw no mention of proposing custom videos. Or did I miss it?......................elsullo

elsullo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:44 pm Sorry, but I seem to be out of touch. Does Bluestone still do North American made customs?

Not for some time now, I don't think. Newlywed Killer was released several years ago.

elsullo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:44 pm His work is generally the best in the world...

If you're referring to his Superheroine and SYCC series, that's because he's not the one filming them. He hooked up with UKSG a few years ago, and they use a professional film crew.

Nyghtfall3D wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:10 pm

elsullo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:44 pm Sorry, but I seem to be out of touch. Does Bluestone still do North American made customs?

Not for some time now, I don't think. Newlywed Killer was released several years ago.

elsullo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:44 pm His work is generally the best in the world...

If you're referring to his Superheroine and SYCC series, that's because he's not the one filming them. He hooked up with UKSG a few years ago, and they use a professional film crew.

Actually, not quite accurate! Here's the real story in order to correct the myths and rumours abounding. I did a few co-productions with UKSG, took over the copyright for some of their earlier productions when they left the retail market, and put together a professional crew in order to produce my own videos, totally independent of UKSG, which include Superheroine videos. Right now, I am filming exclusively in the UK, but I did have a professional crew assembled in Canada where a lot of productions were filmed around 2015, including the full series of Melanie Dunne Supernova episodes, as well as Teen Bat, Darkwing, Ultrawoman, Wondra, Dark Wondra, Blackbird, White Angel and many, many others. See photo of my Canadian cast and crew below from one of our Supernova shoots. As for the original question of Bluestone customs, I will still do them, but because of my current high quality and full crew productions, customs start at US$3,000, which is too rich for most people's wallets. A few years ago, I was selling elements in my productions for a lot less, but I had to suspend that process to avoid losing the direction of my storylines. I hope that clears up the many inaccuracies surrounding my production company.

Blue

Bluestone wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:47 pm Actually, not quite accurate!

I stand corrected. Thanks for clarifying.