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Hello Everyone,

Here is an interesting question.

It is often asked: "When did you know that you had this fantasy", or "Why do we have this fantasy"

Those are philosophical questions.

For our producers I think it would be interesting to know why they started to make these films instead of just watching other people's work.

For me it is an easy question to answer: I always want to see a very sexy bad girl get killed the way I think she should die: The slower and more lingering the death the better. (This is the sexual reason, and yes I am not just doing this for the sake of acting or business but because it turns me on.)

At the same time I have the operatic voice type that leads me to being killed. I had died so many times on the stage that I wanted to capture my work on film.

(Carmen alone must have accounted for hundreds of deaths!!)

Once filmmaking became something that could be done very inexpensively I decided to go for it.

So what about the rest of you?

Paul (KHP) in particular, without giving away any trade secrets I am wondering if you were a very handy sort of fellow who fixed cars and so forth...

Peter, I think I have a pretty good idea why you produce, and I think we are pretty similar in tastes and what drives us to make films...but in your own eloquent words if you would

Baci

Hi Paul,

That makes a lot of sense.

One of the things I think we have in common is taking an element of filmmaking that we feel we can perfect and working on it.

In your case, clearly, its the special effects,

In mine its the performance of the death scene itself, putting litthe touches in that make thenm stand out.

I think about those things a lot.

Baci

Thank you Paul.

That means a great deal coming from you.

Baci

Dalila di Capri wrote: For our producers I think it would be interesting to know why they started to make these films instead of just watching other people's work.

I have a fetish interest in this sort of material. I want to see it. If I wasn't producing it myself, I likely would be buying it.

The question was; why produce it instead of watching other people's work? Well, when I started creating my first work, there was no "other people's work". Before the internet, before web sites, I was writing my own stories, and drawing my own art related to these fetishes. When finally I got on the Internet, the Web had barely started (back in 1995), there were no web sites that dealt with these subjects, there were only a handful of newsgroups on the Usenet; alt.sex.bondage, alt.sex.stories and the like.

One of the first things I did when finally having Internet access was to go check out those newsgroups. I wanted to know if other people had created material similar to my own. I found a few likeminded souls, but very little in the way of stories and such that really did it for me. About the only stories anyone posted were both extremely misogynistic and frankly, for the most part, badly written. By that point I had already written a good many stories that treated these subjects without being misogynistic, and I was much motivated to post them, both to share, and to illustrate how this subject could be approached differently.

My stories proved popular and I quickly posted everything I had written, as well as a fair sampling of my art. However posts on the Usenet expire quickly, and while at first I got a lot of Emails asking for new stories, quickly I started getting mostly Emails asking for reposts of old stories. Then the very first web site for our community started up, 'Blackplague', hosting a fair variety of subjects, including a few that touched on our subjects. They offered to host web sites. So I built a web site; Peter's Art & Stories, and posted the stories and art there once and for all so I would have to constantly repost on the newsgroups. Mine was in fact the very first web site hosted by Blackplague.

Within weeks, several other notable web sites also started up with Blackplague, including Vicki's Necrobabe site. All was good, we worked on our sites, developing them further, linking with each other's and enjoying our community. And then Vicki and I got hit with a bomb shell, we were sent a bill for bandwidth usage, a bill for several hundred dollars each. We were told we could expect just such a bill each month. Promptly Vicki and I were on the phone together.

Neither of us could easily afford to spend a major portion of our rent money in order to host a free web site. We figured we could either take down our sites, turn our sites into pay sites, or lastly, open a brand new site together that would be a member site, the proceeds of which could cover the bandwidth cost of our free sites. We opted for the later option. I spent a month building the very first member site in our community, Necrobabes, and several photographers contributed material to it's launch, notably including JohnM.

Necrobabes proved to be significantly more popular than any of us anticipated, and instead of it being a hobby done a couple of evenings a week, it quickly grew into a full time job to maintain. I accidentally found myself working full time in this business. Within months, I was not just doing HTML work and writing story texts to go with the photos, I also started taking photos myself. As the Web matured and bandwidth capacity grew, I moved into video as well.

All that was a long time ago. The community has seen a lot of changes over the years. I have seen it all. I wasn't just there in the beginning of our community. I had a very real hand in it's creation. That may sound like ego, but I think it's more, pride.

Thanks Peter for your well written post.

One of my inspirations for producing my own films was your art and stories site, specifically because they were not misogynistic and that many in fact suggested that women would
consent to the fantasy either as the sexually excited victim, or a willing killer.

My twist was to invent a set of evil characters who not only enjoy being killed, but enjoy the entire thrill of their life styles. When they finally meet their ends their last wish is that they are killed in the manner they want to die.

I play this type of character even when I am doing a simple kitchen stab. There is always something a bit sinister about all of my characters, and the depiction of fear is left out of it.
I do from time to time play a surprised character, but I leave the pure screaming frightened damsel in distress work to others.

I think with all of us who have been making these films for a while there is pride in being "pioneers". New producers are attracted to the genre because they saw a stunning special effect from KHP, or something erotic that you produced, or some over the top dramatic performance from me and say to themselves "I'd like to do that." It is fun to have done it first!

Baci

I’m not sure whether or not you would define me as a producer or filmmaker as I don’t actually film much material. My role has been to write scripts, select the cast, coordinate production and perform the final editing on those productions before they are released for viewing.

In any event, I started out by simply writing stories. Later, Peter recruited me and several others to write stories that went along with the photosets that were produced for 3 of the sites in the original NB empire. The majority of those photosets were produced by Peter, Lissa Noble and Bailey.

In about 2004, I started writing scripts for videos on and off, then at the end of 2008, I started writing, coordinating and editing on a very regular basis. My entrance into this phase came about mostly by chance. The individual I work with was rather suddenly without a production coordinator, and I just stepped in and started doing it. My approach has been similar to Dalila in that I have worked mostly with developing good plots while only aspiring to develop some of the technical skill in special FX so expertly demonstrated by Paul at KHP. I do occasionally shoot some video that is used as background material and introduced into the productions during the editing process. In all, I’ve worked on a bit over 100 videos—not a lot, but certainly an enjoyable collection of experiences.

I do the work because it is fun and demands enough from me to be interesting. A lot of the challenge is in finding a little something that is different from what others are doing whether it is obvious or not. (As an example, the group I work with has produced videos with footage shot on different continents. ) I’d do more if I had the time, but I have pretty strong interests in other areas as well, and I need to do those activities in order to support my “hobbies”.

Hello Everyone,

Here is an interesting question.

It is often asked: "When did you know that you had this fantasy", or "Why do we have this fantasy"

Those are philosophical questions.

For our producers I think it would be interesting to know why they started to make these films instead of just watching other people's work.

Hi, I started because I was always a person who wrote something that I wanted to shock people with ever since I was really young. I had won various writing awards and excelled at creative writing but it wasn't until I watched FRENZY that I became hooked with a desire I felt I could tell no one about. From the moment I watched it, I masturbated. Must have done so dozens of times. I then started searching for others like me and found them in the form of Necrobabes.

At first I was thrilled at watching all their material but their stories only served to force my mind to create twisted variations. It was because of that, that it became a vision, something I wanted to contribute to the community in my own way and I strongly believe that is the strength and gift of every producer, to provide content that comes from the heart insides. People may think one producer or another is too twisted, delves into the sex aspect too deeply or is just plain weak, but the ntruth is every producer is to be respected for creating their own signature pieces and that is what will make this community great.