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URGENT: to all website owners & admins!

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:06 pm
by Algenon5

Re: URGENT: to all website owners & admins!

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:22 am
by smudger
Doesn't the use of a VPN or proxy server circumvent any ISP blocking?

Re: URGENT: to all website owners & admins!

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:03 am
by Algenon5
No, because the website itself would be denied sufficient transmission speed to make operation practical -- that is unless the website was willing (and able) to pay whatever fees the ISPs decide to impose for full-speed access.

Al

Re: URGENT: to all website owners & admins!

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:43 am
by smudger
When I am abroad, I need a proxy server to access British on-line television, as it will only work if you appear to have a UK IP address. Therefore my (foreign) ISP links with the proxy server, and not directly to the website. The proxy server or VPN links to the website, and relays the information from the website, which it is able to access as it presents as having a UK IP address. It operates at full speed so that streaming video is possible.

I also stay in a country which censors certain websites and blocks access to them. However, using the proxy server or VPN, again the block is circumvented and I can access them as normal.

Re: URGENT: to all website owners & admins!

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:53 pm
by Algenon5
The end of netnutrality has nothing to do with blocking your personal access to websites. It has everything to do with blocking a website's access to high-speed data transmission, unless they pay fees to every US ISP that demands them. If a site you visit will not or cannot pay these fees, your use of the site (opening pages, streaming, downloading) could be slowed down considerably. The use of a proxy can have no effect on this.

An analogy would be high-speed toll roads (carriageways) versus local streets. A large, rich company that can afford the tolls will still be able to deliver its products in record time. While the costumers of a small company with limited resources will wait a lot longer for deliveries shipped on secondary roads.

Happily for you, Smudger, being a vigina location instructor living in the UK you're imune from all this bullshit.

Al

Re: URGENT: to all website owners & admins!

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:07 am
by smudger
Sorry, Al, missed the point on that one, it seems. However, the better news is that I have managed to educate a class of young ladies where their vaginas were.... their response, "Ooh, silly me, I always thought that was my pussy!"

Re: URGENT: to all website owners & admins!

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:53 pm
by Algenon5
I wonder if they had been leaving saucers of milk out at night -- that is until your teaching aid set them straight.

Kidding aside, this is US corporate greed in action which will have no effect outside of the US. Anyone who accesses the net through an ISP not based in the US will see no changes in the speed of US websites.

Al

Re: URGENT: to all website owners & admins!

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:13 pm
by smudger
Isn't that what I said, Al? That to fool the system into thinking you are not in the U.S. will resolve the issue? Surely with a VPN your ISP communicates only with the VPN and not directly with the website? Or am I still not getting it?

Re: URGENT: to all website owners & admins!

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:31 pm
by Algenon5
Being only a middle-level genius I don't fully understand the reasons why, but the answer is no. If there was an easy work-around like proxy access, the tech gods from Google to Yahoo wouldn't be screaming their heads off about this situation. Even if proxies did work, it's highly unlikely they would be able to handle the enormous traffic volume from just one mega streaming site like Netflix. BTW, Netflix has already begun paying these tolls to Comcast and Time Warner, the two largest US ISPs which together account for more than 50 percent of all home and business internet connections here. Netflix is a huge, highly savvy outfit. If there had been an easy way to avoid these fees, they would have jumped on it.

Mensa reject Al