The punitive and the tragic

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Re: The punitive and the tragic

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I'm definitely the punitive type.

I also enjoy a mix of tragic and punitive. Where the woman is more of an anti hero, tragic in her passing yet a necessity for the punitive demise.
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Re: The punitive and the tragic

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As much as I enjoy a really bad girl getting her comeuppance, there is something awfully attractive & a turn on about a completely innocent girl getting it, usually just one who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time... :twisted:
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xj900uk wrote:As much as I enjoy a really bad girl getting her comeuppance, there is something awfully attractive & a turn on about a completely innocent girl getting it, usually just one who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time... :twisted:
I agree! To me, scenes of random acts of violence are much more of a turn on than a bad girl getting a calculated ending by a serial killer.

Examples are like the movies we've all seen where the serial killer drives up and down the strip looking for a hooker. That's nice. But the bank teller that gets executed in a robbery scene, that's really, really nice.
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I also prefer the innocent victim. Reason is that it is more exciting for me to enjoy the erotic death of a woman who I am attracted to... one who pushes all of my buttons, as opposed to an evil woman or a floosy. The more that I'd like to screw them, the better they are as a victim in a death scene. After all, the act of killing in the erotic death fetish is a substitute for the sex act!

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But the bank teller that gets executed in a robbery scene, that's really, really nice
Yeah saw this fantastic scene on TV at the start of the year, think it was actually a late night drama it was with subtitles I can tell you that might have been Eastern European. The bank robber holds up the small bank, the young female clerk is terrified but does as she's told, loads all the £ into the bag for him even though she's shaking with fright, even goes through some of the other tills for him. And to thank her for all her hard efforts he almost casually puts a bullet right between her eyes... That's evil :twisted:
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xj900uk wrote:
And to thank her for all her hard efforts he almost casually puts a bullet right between her eyes... That's evil :twisted:
That's hot. :approve:
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xj900uk wrote:As much as I enjoy a really bad girl getting her comeuppance, there is something awfully attractive & a turn on about a completely innocent girl getting it, usually just one who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time... :twisted:
Before I was into just the innocent type vic or just the housewife type vic but my tastes in fantasy vics has changed alittle. more like adding on taste. Noe I dont mind seeing a sexy bad girl type character. especially when Im creating the character. depending on how the bad girl is created. she can be as sex as a innocent sexy vic. plus you can have it both ways. sex bad girl does the strangling of a innocent sexy vic. If you create a female type vampire character for example. that opens up a whole different possibilities.
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xj900uk wrote:
But the bank teller that gets executed in a robbery scene, that's really, really nice
Yeah saw this fantastic scene on TV at the start of the year, think it was actually a late night drama it was with subtitles I can tell you that might have been Eastern European. The bank robber holds up the small bank, the young female clerk is terrified but does as she's told, loads all the £ into the bag for him even though she's shaking with fright, even goes through some of the other tills for him. And to thank her for all her hard efforts he almost casually puts a bullet right between her eyes... That's evil :twisted:
that is evil. shootings are usually a turn off for me. but in time I have been willing to leave a little space for that type of killing method. a silencer type shooting or a arrow kill. the sound I think does it for me. A sound fetish I guess it is.
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Not that into shootings unless it's a headshot or a silencer kill - something about the soft 'phutt' I think so I know where you're coming from re the noise. Haven't actually seen that many arrow kills
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Re: The punitive and the tragic

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I'm the polar opposite. I like the loud crack of a 357 magnum echoing through a high ceiling bank.

The best being the buildup of the chaos as the robber selects his victim, then a sudden, uncomfortable silence fills the bank. Then, if timed just perfectly, when that weapon fires it will give you a startle and for a brief moment you'll think "noooooo he didn't really do it".

But then the hole in her head pours out blood and the echo of the shot is replaced with the thud of her body hitting the floor.
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xj900uk wrote:Not that into shootings unless it's a headshot or a silencer kill - something about the soft 'phutt' I think so I know where you're coming from re the noise. Haven't actually seen that many arrow kills
what got me into the arrow kills because of the noise and how the sexy actress reacts is the series that bluestone did. the urban hunter series. It doesnt hit my taste buds like a strangle scene would but its fun to watch and add more to my tastes. secondary tastes. I think my tastes have come a long way. beyond just necro rape stuff that sits in my collection but not as much anymore. when I watch horror scenes from like halloween 1 and 2. I love the sounds that the vics make, being stabbed or strangled. it enhances it. More emotion.
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Re: The punitive and the tragic

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while my tastes grow beyond what they were before. so do my characters. if there is rape. there is a reason for the character to be doing that. which leads to more for the story line. like his arrest and jail time. if its a vampire type character. it opens up the possibility for a history point in time. the vic character could be innocent once before but becomes not innocent like if she becomes a zombie or a demon. which I guess could be the transition type character. when I create my own character I can like any type really because I add my own psyche liking type in them. more control over the balance of what I like in the type of character.
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Re: The punitive and the tragic

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Bluestone wrote:I also prefer the innocent victim. Reason is that it is more exciting for me to enjoy the erotic death of a woman who I am attracted to... one who pushes all of my buttons, as opposed to an evil woman or a floosy. The more that I'd like to screw them, the better they are as a victim in a death scene. After all, the act of killing in the erotic death fetish is a substitute for the sex act!

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I agree. the vic being sexy helps of course. it gives the reason maybe for her demise and another element to why we like the scene. I like horror flicks in general. f the vic happens to be sexy then that will grab my eyes a little quicker. :razz: Ever see the movie titled in the line of fire? there was this scene where these two women. had a little weight on them had their neck snapped by the killer was a rouge CiA trained killer. I forget but I liked the scene and its in my clip collection. I think because they were innocent type vics and the kill was a clean kill. necksnap. It depends. the vic can be hot but the kill method may be too extreme to even enjoy. sometimes there is no happy balance. sometimes there is. sometimes there is just enough of the elements that we like in a scene to enjoy it.
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