Yeah I understand totally, but what I meant though is, from a legal perspective how could you seperate the two? Why would a death fetish video be considered obscene(illegal) and not any other horror movie with scenes that mix sex and death? Is it because of the intention of the creator? Sombody who makes a fetish video could say that it wasn't there intention to have their video be sexually appealing.
CinemorgueFan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:43 pmI don't see their fight against death fetish going the way they think because their anti-death fetish stance is rooted in pro-censorship. Unless it's blatantly offensive or harmful, which death fetish is not, trying to censor media is never going to sit well with the internet. Sure, people may be repulsed by it, but the general public isn't going to focus on content that looks bad when there's actual bad media out there - media that promotes hateful views and / or features actual harm. Censors have a much bigger fish to fry, the general public has bigger issues to worry about, and no sensationalism is going to make some 20-minute death fetish custom a bigger deal than the movie Kyrie Irving appeared to promote. Unlike actual harmful content, people who don't like death fetish are free to ignore death fetish without any negative results.PainInPerfection wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:25 pm Death fetish is very unknown and it is kind of an "extreme" thing, its a good topic to use to get peoples attention and get them emotionally distraught, then capitalize off peoples fears over it. They know this and they are using it to there advantage. Simular type of thing that people were doing in the 90s with the whole satanic panic. They are only interested in making money, they are using the death fetish community as a tool to do this. They don't really care about the facts around anything, just spinning things to fit there narratives and validate their claims.
The thing is though, they can say what they want and make their money however they want, but they are talking about trying to change obscenity/censorship laws on a federal level (which they arent smart enough to do) and are stepping on toes and attacking not just the death fetish community, but the larger fetish community as a whole, AND the mainstream horror film world. Where is the line between a women getting killed in a horror film and sombody getting killed in a death fetish video? It's a very thin line, if any at all. There is tons of horror films that are way more graphic sexually and look alot more realistic then any fetish video (Ie:Irreversible).
The difference between horror films and death fetish videos is the intended reaction of the viewers. Horror films are meant to be repulsive, which aligns with mainstream viewpoints. Irreversible is intended to disturb. A death fetish video is not intended to disturb. Death fetish videos are meant to be sexually pleasing and that goes against the mainstream perspective. This disconnect is why there will probably never be a mainstream understanding of death fetish, but the mainstream doesn't need to understand it. It's going to exist when it's inoffensive in a real-world context.