Speaking of our community

[Den-CnB]

I have noticed that on both this forum and DS people are discussing the shooting at the Latin Fitness Dance class.

I urge you whenever possible to post your attitudes about fantasy versus reality every time some sort of event like this happens. The more we go on record as being opposed to this kind of violence the better chance we have of being left alone to enjoy our harmless fantasy material in peace.

Thoughts???

Our interests are Fantasy only and RL *murders should not be posted. It could appear to outsiders we are confused between fantasy and reality. If it is posted we do it at this forum's peril.

* If someone of importance dies for whatever reason, I believe this is okay to post as a matter of information to the group: Example, the president, a member, etc.

Dennis

[Dalila di Capri]

Wise advice on the whole...

But when someone else is posting about the event as thoguh we too would perhaps tend to do something like the fellow at the gym should we not object to this and thell the poster to be quiet about it??

Baci

[slasherdude9999]

Well I don't have much to add that hasn't already been said but to agree with you all on several points that have been made. I truly believe that it is in the nature of the murderer to murder. It will be an insatiable desire that is only quelled momentarily by the actual act. If a serial killer is found with gore/real death photos or videos or theatrical such in their posession, it's no different than a comic book collector having comic books. What I'm trying to say is, it is not the material that drove them to kill but their need to feel ultimate power and dominance over an individual by taking their life, an act that cannot be reversed or mended. I have no desire to commit murder in real life. As stated before real death is not glamorous or erotic. It is really the opposite of those things.
I utterly detest the media and rarely watch the news. No newscaster has all the answers though they often pretend they do. Not just on violence. The truth is that we don't know why people are violent. Humans are anything but 100% predictable. Yes there are clues, certain chemicals in the brain, behavioral studies dealing with trauma during childhood. But no one is sure and no one will be sure for some time. To pin the blame on staged death is a kneejerk reaction. A quick fix. In my opinon the majority of humanity is stupid. I take my daily part in this as much as the next person from making bad decisions in my finances to thinking I can take a shortcut and getting lost on the road. I think members of this community are anything but dangerous. One of our tenants is respect for women and respect for human life. It is the fantasy that turns us on, not the reality. I don't think a killer is any more likely to kill for having access to the material we watch. A killer will kill because that is what she/he does.

[shootingmad]

Wise advice on the whole...

But when someone else is posting about the event as thoguh we too would perhaps tend to do something like the fellow at the gym should we not object to this and thell the poster to be quiet about it??

Baci

Dalila, hi there!

What you said in this quote and before, is what a lot of ex-members from DS tried before. But Geno has a zero tolerance policy for when someone attempts to express disagreement with a topic of such nature posted on the forum.
I recall member Manoir (aka Superid) trying very hard to oppose against all sort of topics that started showing up a year ago about different tragic events. He said that considering the nature of our community, such event news shouldnt even be allowed to be discussed on the forums. Geno said that as long as there is no erotic overtone in the topic it should be allowed. And therefore, he suspends (vacation package) anyone that express disagreement. I know that for a fact, Superid was suspended a couple of times, then he resigned and joined back in under a different name.

Others users suffered the same faith.

Still, I agree with what you say. Im just bringing this up so other members (who might not know the real Geno, as it seems due to latests events) get to know a little more about DS policies, before they chose to expose themselves in a discussion against him about posting of real tragic events.

baci bella donna.

[Dalila di Capri]

Well the real problem with Geno is what he choses to avoid and what he choses to allow to be posted.

IF we are going to talk about RL violence then I am in a position to decribed what happened to me in a RL stabbing (Yes that scar is not just a "Dalila myth"...I was really stabbed)

So I am in the perfect position to express this viewpoint.

But Geno has asked me not to talk about this subject on his forum in too much detail and I have respected his wishes.

I am in Peter's camp. I believe that even if just a small portion of our fan base may have at one time considered carrying out such an attack in RL these films could pursuade those who
would perhaps do so to simply enjoy the film fantasy...which is perfectly legal and perfectly socially acceptable

As I said to KHP Paul's standing ovation on another thread Opera has been murdering its leading ladies for hundreds of years, and this is called "high art", not nercro porn.
When a Verdi Soprano is belly stabbed and allowed a ten minute singing scene after the stabbing....well does that not sound like a "Dalila film"???

I know that many producers disagree and believe that the films make no impact one way or the other. We all agree that these films do not cause violence against women.

The fellow at DS going on and on about the gym murder is saying that this killer is just like people in our community. The killer's diaries...now made public....say the opposite. This one poster claims that he has decided to leave because we are a bunch of dangerous people.
Well...let's see if he leaves...or at least get off of the unpleasant topic.

I feel that what we as a community should do no matter what is come out and oppose RL violence whenever we can.

I can see that this is not what was going on at DS...but I wish Geno himself would stand up and say..."hey..I am opposed to RL violence"...because I have seen him do this before.

Here at FF however the message is clear. Not a single producer or member of this forum condones RL violence such as what happened at the gym.

...and that is a very good thing.

Baci

[Bluestone]

Hi Dalila,

If I can reinforce that position on RL violence. The official position of FF is that we do not condone and are sickened by real life violence. In fact, Rule #10 clearly states:

10) Real Life Killings or Deaths: This is a fantasy board, so reference to real life deaths or killings will not be permitted.

Now, this Rule is in force to make it clear that we do not support or encourage real life killings. Certainly, reference can be made to real life killings in order to support our opposition to same; however, not to encourage, condone or glorify such incidents.

Blue

[Dalila di Capri]

No Ambiguity there!!!

Thanks Blue.

And yes in your fantasises you can shoot me at our dinner....just let have that last bite of pasta first

Baci