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Wel lat least can you tell us what it was clled os we can look out for it on NEt clisx site then?


Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:07 am
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If and when it gets put on some where, I will let you know.

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knifeinhand wrote:
They are being submitted to Netflix.


Netflix? Um... that's... an... unusually... mainstream choice.

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So what is the name of this crowd funded film? Where can I buy it?

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It's not available, yet. The funding was only recently secured and the model booked. My understanding is they're scheduled to start shooting later this month:

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Can you give me any details on it? What is the scenario? What happens? Why it is costing $3000 to make.

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knifeinhand wrote:
Can you give me any details on it? What is the scenario? What happens?


Lots of different things. Many people contributed at least $100 each for their favorite fetish element(s). Unfortunately, there's no current consolidated list of who paid for what.

This is the plot outline Richpartist posted on page 9 of the thread I linked to above. I don't know how accurate it is. I've reformatted it for easier reading:

Natasha Custom - “Supernova 21: Trapped” - Plot Outline

Plot Outline

Natasha, dressed in glasses, business attire (skirt suit), short sleeve blouse, pantyhose and high heels is escorted into a room by an armed guard. Xander turns around and engages her in conversation, but it soon becomes apparent that she is Supernova in disguise and that this is also a trap. Still in civies, she removes her jacket and glasses, knocks down the guard, and seizes Xander by the lapels, lifting him into the air. Then, Xander pulls out a pepper spray can and sprays red star dust into her face to blind and weaken her. She staggers back. The guard recovers and starts to beat on her, ending with a throat chop which causes her to stagger back, fall to her knees clutching her throat, and the guard kicks her in the face, dropping her to the floor, with her legs thrashing about.

Xander slips on surgical gloves, kneels behind her, lifts her into a seated position, and slaps a small chloro rag over her lower face as she struggles wildly. Her heels fall off her flailing feet. There are upskirt views during her struggles. She becomes groggy and the cloth is removed, then she comes to a little and the cloth is re- applied until she's fully out. Her hands slip slowly away from his wrist and her arms fall limply away as she passes out. Xander performs checks on both eyes. There is a body pan with extended leg and foot views. Then, the guard lifts her into an extended cradle carry.

Then, her eyes snap open, and she pounds the guard, forcing him to drop her. She knocks him down, then using super speed transforms into Supernova. Xander calmly presses a device and red light floods the room, both blinding and weakening her. The guard recovers and he and Xander double team her, beating her mercilessly, including face and body blows and a throat chop.

Finally, the guard hand strangles her with both hands, lifting her off the floor by her neck. She struggles grasping at his hand and kicking her feet, her tongue protruding as he crushes her throat, until she finally passes out . Her hands drop to her side and her feet go limp. She’s tossed unconscious to the floor, and the two men get ready to finish her. As she recovers consciousness they kick her while she’s down. Her hose is now showing runs from the beating. She is then pulled to her feet by her cape, and strangled with it (against a pole if one’s available). When she’s almost done, she is tossed face down to the floor and rolls around moaning in pain. Finally, recognizing that she’s beaten, she does a long, drawn out attempt to crawl away across the floor.

Extreme Ending

Xander pulls her back onto her knees and painfully garrotes her to death. She dies with a death stare and her body is panned.

Peril Ending

Xander, still wearing gloves, pulls her back onto her knees and roughly chloroforms her again from behind with a small cloth in fausta position There is similar dialogue from Emma G's scene in "Wondra: Payback". After she passes out, he checks both eyes. There is a double de-booting with long foot closeups. Body pan. Then, the guard picks her up into a short cradle carry (similar to the last scene in Blackbird: Cry of Victory), then she is flipped up and over into an ots carry. There is a butt pat, then she is carried away ots for about ten yards (if studio space allows) and out the door.

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Why it is costing $3000 to make.


You'll have to ask Blue. That's the number that was quoted to greenlight the project.

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It's like I said. It's a strangle video. lol

Apparently people who like a choking or strangle video will pay. No way will you get any one who wants a stabbing to get together on a video and believe me, it has been tried.

As you said, they won't even pay $20 for an outfit.

I'm not really sure why a $3000 video will be more satisfying. I guess I need to get out of the stabbing and arrow business.

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FYI, last year, Amazon Warrior had a crowd funded video made. It was a huge endeavor and I felt it turned out great.
However, in general, it is very hard to get that sort of thing done as there are so many complexities to having a ba-zillion people producing a video $100 at a time. I commend him for taking it on.

Anyhow, reason I posted this is it was a shooting video. And shooting custom customers will support high value customs. Last year and this year I had 2 10K projects and 1 5K project. And we are working on another for next year. While there are no profits associated with those large numbers, the budget paid for what was needed to get the movie done to the expectation of the customer.

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What was all that money spent on? Actors, crew? Squibs? Catering? Uber rides? Flights?

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knifeinhand wrote:
What was all that money spent on? Actors, crew? Squibs? Catering? Uber rides? Flights?


It's more expensive to shoot a mix of adult pro models with bggg or bgg hardcore content especially when one or more are traveling. And these productions took 8 hours each, so I could not spread the cost for other customs. The customer had to pay the entire day rate for each model and agency models have a higher minimum rate. And I have customers enjoy those models. And, of course, hardcore content demands a fair rate. And while there are certain types of girls that will do hardcore content very, very cheaply, for safety and to not perpetuate the culture of paying crap for that sort of content--I stick to agency or vetted talent and pay LA and on some cases, above LA rates based on content. Couple that with agency fees, airfare, several nights of hotels in large suites. I mean, just in hotels, it's about 2K. Then you have meals over a couple days for cast and crew. Transportation costs location.

It all adds up. I still directed and edited it for free. It netted a profit of $758. So, if not for the custom, it would be negative $9000+.

Now, if I was doing the same movie in Russia, with the USD to RUB exchange rate and knowing the average income of a collage age model and what they feel is good pay, the entire shoot---assuming there was a clone of me to direct, would cost $1500. :-)

Or, if I shot this is the US, say, in New Mexico (or Washington DC), where rates are a bit lower and only used local talent and their boyfriends (or homeless guys) and did not require safe STD medical testing--booked a skanky hotel--crossed my fingers that I did not get knifed and robbed at the shoot--probably would have been under 3K.

Like in any business, you get what you pay for. I do my best and only charge the customers my actual costs and never charge for my time-labor. But, I also don't skimp on the talent pay as that can lead to a bad reputation in a business that is all about networking. And I will tell you, if a producer sucks, it gets magnified over the entire industry...sometimes unfairly.

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Didn't know that in involved porn. That alone would explain it. I know all too well, that comes at a high price. It's a whole other ball game when using models who don't do any sex scenes. I guess I should know by now that anything you shoot has some one fucking a girl at some point. lol

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I know how much shit I go thru with just one person paying $100 for a custom. I end up getting about 30 emails back and forth when it's supposed to be just a simply scenario. I can't imagine how it is to get emails from 30 people invested in a single video. Then half the time, after all the emails, they don't follow thru on it. Very frustrating. It's why I would just rather shoot what I like and then sale it.

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I say "You do you". There is a place for less expensive customs and if I had it, I would pay (since there's no way I could afford JohnM or PsychThrillers). $200 or even $300 is dirt-cheap and you do good effects.


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I'm the one who showed all the rest how to do them. I can tell that the few who do some effects learned by watching my work. Many have found out how much work it actually is and quit doing it and do mostly some form of strangle video. Seems to be a lot more money in that any way and I might have to then show people how to do those right.

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