Member complaint against 121 fantasies
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:10 pm
Hello FF members,
I want to bring to your attention some alleged unprofessionalism on the part of the custom store that is ran by Irma and/or Talia. A DS member (lovestrangle) has complained he put forth money for a custom video production from the Irma/Talia team over there. Then "121.." promised to have his production complete by July 18, 2017. Mr. Lovestrangle went on to report on the public DeadSkirts board, that the Irma-Talia co producer team, gave him two hollow excuses as to why they have not produce the film. He was paid in full.
On August 5, 2017, Mr. Lovestrangle went public on DS to expose their stalls. He got support from several members who sympathized with him, include me who rates this even hire than my anti-piracy effort because your money lost is very immediate.
Things then got a little confusing. Mr. Lovestrangle said that Irma-Talia team started making threats against him and told him to take his business elsewhere and they would refund his money quote "ASAP". I told him not to accept ASAP from anyone, and to instead get a exact date if refund. "As Soon As Possible" could mean week or months from now. Tell me you will refund. According to Lovestrangle he said Irma-Talia team said the model abandoned the project and took her deposit, as if Mr. Lovestrangle would be responsible for that lost.
I told him he is not responsible for the model's deposit without because he never contractually agreed to that, so Irma/Talia team is responsible for that model deposit. Also, because Mr. Lovestrangle claimed Irma was making threats not refund anything, I had that Mr. Lovestrangle provide some copies of the email with those thread. He never provided them for me, so I said we can not take those threats as fact. Still with concerned DS members private-messaged Irma-Talia that this incident was being exposed on DeadSkirts, she apparently started to feel the community pressure that prevents most producers from surviving it they are being dishonest.
According to Mr. Lovestrangle, Irma has now contacted him and now Lovestrangle says he has agreed for a re-scheduling of a shoot of his custom with a different model. Yet in the meantime, Lovestrangle only has a promise, and he does not have his refund. Lovestangle is still complaining right this second, that Irma does not answer her emails in timely fashion and he has been unable to look over a possible replacement model. I just don't want to hear that 2 weeks from now, he has no product (video) , no refund. You exposed the incident I told him, so let's lock her down to her word, and if she does not come through it will be a black mark against her company for all to see. Like I said earlier. No custom producer in the fantasy female death fetish industry can survive without out having some reppoort with the message forums in our community. If a custom producer has any improprieties, from low filming standards to total dishonesty and crookedness will be exposed, and it is very effiective
Let's Looks At Some Possible Legitimate Excuses
"121 fantasies" (Irma-Talia team) has an advertising permit with DeadSkirts. They don't have a black mark against them yet. Then again, they really have no record with us, because I knew Irma had to produce some xxx-porn first to build her business up first. I told her she is is always welcome to post her 'fetish-only' video products on DeadSkirts. The business never got good enough in her eyes to start posting her limited fetish-only video on DS, even though it was up to her. :huh:
Now what about "121 fantasies" today, now? It's not looking good overall for the company. Normally in the top ten on the xxx-porn broker site Nichie..you could find her drifting around in the top ten. Now the company has drifted completely out of the top 25 sites. Something is not going right with the company for sure. Then there are health concerns. I mean serious health concern with maybe the ultimate factor behind all of this. I think Irma need to either make a public statement of get a cordial friend to make it for her, because even though our heart goes out for her, we want every member to have the full unfettered informed choice of weather or not to order a custom from Irma-Talia and there "121 fantasy company".
The ChrisB Connection
Sometimes going under the alias of Chris X, he also has no black marks against him after being banned from deadskirts for 4 years and 2 months for making threats. ChrisB aka ChrisX has a direct connection and he's right there in town, next to the company, "121 fantasies". ChrisB/ChrisX was told by me, he may advertise his "non-xxx-porn" videos only on DeadSkirts but of all the bragging about all (not much) the fetish only products aside from the xxx-porn he makes, he has only advertised 4 videos since returning. :noway: Also he and the Irma-Talia team are the only producers that show a tendany of refusing to answer their legit communcations by webmaster like me, and their even very own customers. I told Chris B, he does have be a coward, if he wants to talk he can, if he does not want to talk...no need to block me...just say stop, and I will.
I am very glad to provide advertising space for the overwhelming majority of producers who are honest, cordial, full of integrity, professionalism, and who answer their e-mail communications. Those DS producers include Michelle (ChokeChamber), Mayra and her beautiful Hispanic models, Sophie (an adorable European doll), John, Bluestone, BigJohn (dabbles in some porn nowadays). You may be disappointed with some of their productions sometimes but they will never rip you off..
Anyway that's it for now. We are going to see what is going to happen with this latest promise from "121 fantasies' and what Mr. Lovestrangle reports. I
Geno (the owner DeadSkirts.Com)
(Name of producer 121 Fantasies corrected by FF Admin on August 14th, 2017.)
I want to bring to your attention some alleged unprofessionalism on the part of the custom store that is ran by Irma and/or Talia. A DS member (lovestrangle) has complained he put forth money for a custom video production from the Irma/Talia team over there. Then "121.." promised to have his production complete by July 18, 2017. Mr. Lovestrangle went on to report on the public DeadSkirts board, that the Irma-Talia co producer team, gave him two hollow excuses as to why they have not produce the film. He was paid in full.
On August 5, 2017, Mr. Lovestrangle went public on DS to expose their stalls. He got support from several members who sympathized with him, include me who rates this even hire than my anti-piracy effort because your money lost is very immediate.
Things then got a little confusing. Mr. Lovestrangle said that Irma-Talia team started making threats against him and told him to take his business elsewhere and they would refund his money quote "ASAP". I told him not to accept ASAP from anyone, and to instead get a exact date if refund. "As Soon As Possible" could mean week or months from now. Tell me you will refund. According to Lovestrangle he said Irma-Talia team said the model abandoned the project and took her deposit, as if Mr. Lovestrangle would be responsible for that lost.
I told him he is not responsible for the model's deposit without because he never contractually agreed to that, so Irma/Talia team is responsible for that model deposit. Also, because Mr. Lovestrangle claimed Irma was making threats not refund anything, I had that Mr. Lovestrangle provide some copies of the email with those thread. He never provided them for me, so I said we can not take those threats as fact. Still with concerned DS members private-messaged Irma-Talia that this incident was being exposed on DeadSkirts, she apparently started to feel the community pressure that prevents most producers from surviving it they are being dishonest.
According to Mr. Lovestrangle, Irma has now contacted him and now Lovestrangle says he has agreed for a re-scheduling of a shoot of his custom with a different model. Yet in the meantime, Lovestrangle only has a promise, and he does not have his refund. Lovestangle is still complaining right this second, that Irma does not answer her emails in timely fashion and he has been unable to look over a possible replacement model. I just don't want to hear that 2 weeks from now, he has no product (video) , no refund. You exposed the incident I told him, so let's lock her down to her word, and if she does not come through it will be a black mark against her company for all to see. Like I said earlier. No custom producer in the fantasy female death fetish industry can survive without out having some reppoort with the message forums in our community. If a custom producer has any improprieties, from low filming standards to total dishonesty and crookedness will be exposed, and it is very effiective
Let's Looks At Some Possible Legitimate Excuses
"121 fantasies" (Irma-Talia team) has an advertising permit with DeadSkirts. They don't have a black mark against them yet. Then again, they really have no record with us, because I knew Irma had to produce some xxx-porn first to build her business up first. I told her she is is always welcome to post her 'fetish-only' video products on DeadSkirts. The business never got good enough in her eyes to start posting her limited fetish-only video on DS, even though it was up to her. :huh:
Now what about "121 fantasies" today, now? It's not looking good overall for the company. Normally in the top ten on the xxx-porn broker site Nichie..you could find her drifting around in the top ten. Now the company has drifted completely out of the top 25 sites. Something is not going right with the company for sure. Then there are health concerns. I mean serious health concern with maybe the ultimate factor behind all of this. I think Irma need to either make a public statement of get a cordial friend to make it for her, because even though our heart goes out for her, we want every member to have the full unfettered informed choice of weather or not to order a custom from Irma-Talia and there "121 fantasy company".
The ChrisB Connection
Sometimes going under the alias of Chris X, he also has no black marks against him after being banned from deadskirts for 4 years and 2 months for making threats. ChrisB aka ChrisX has a direct connection and he's right there in town, next to the company, "121 fantasies". ChrisB/ChrisX was told by me, he may advertise his "non-xxx-porn" videos only on DeadSkirts but of all the bragging about all (not much) the fetish only products aside from the xxx-porn he makes, he has only advertised 4 videos since returning. :noway: Also he and the Irma-Talia team are the only producers that show a tendany of refusing to answer their legit communcations by webmaster like me, and their even very own customers. I told Chris B, he does have be a coward, if he wants to talk he can, if he does not want to talk...no need to block me...just say stop, and I will.
I am very glad to provide advertising space for the overwhelming majority of producers who are honest, cordial, full of integrity, professionalism, and who answer their e-mail communications. Those DS producers include Michelle (ChokeChamber), Mayra and her beautiful Hispanic models, Sophie (an adorable European doll), John, Bluestone, BigJohn (dabbles in some porn nowadays). You may be disappointed with some of their productions sometimes but they will never rip you off..
Anyway that's it for now. We are going to see what is going to happen with this latest promise from "121 fantasies' and what Mr. Lovestrangle reports. I
Geno (the owner DeadSkirts.Com)
(Name of producer 121 Fantasies corrected by FF Admin on August 14th, 2017.)